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    November 10, 2012
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> gavin: hello, and thank you for watching the show. i got to say it feels pretty goo to sit in this chair tonight. so many issues i've been advocating for the two-tame mayor of san francisco now liting governor of california starting to take shape all across the country. tuesday's elections with a huge yes to women's issues, gay rights, drug reform, and seriously address the issue of climate change. tonight we'll talk about next steps. we can't afford to lean back and celebrate our wins. we need to continue to move forward, leaning forward. let's explore what needs to be don't on it. our guests will include chris
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lehans aide to al gore and political consultant. an then legendary willie brown with key measures that move the vote. and now that the onslaught of the elections is finally oh over let's get the back story of why jeff goodby does in the like politics. but first we have chris lehans. the elections were predictable but in some respects unpredictable. there were gains in women in the senate, the drug challenge and gay marriage in ways we haven't seen in the past. a when is your sense on this election in history. >> i think people will look back at this election as a tipping point in the country. what you saw was a demographic turnout in terms of the latino
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vote the women and a lot of people spend at least time on latino, which is arguably arguably important in how it turns out politics but the millennial and how they voted. the millennials are folks in this country in terms of how they look at issues. in some ways they're a lot like the type of data you wouldn't have seen from the greatest generation. they carry another care enormously about the world around them, rather than what is in it for me, it's what is in it for us. it reflects the fact that it was a wig segment of the voting population with their attitudes and perspectives.
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it will be interesting if those folks stay progressive if they'll continue those attitudes as they get married and have children and do they evolve in a different way. did they do continue to have that at to you, it will have an interesting impact on our country. >> gavin: it's interesting because the millennial generation is slightly bigger than the baby boom generation, and its impact is profound. you're right, it's a more empathetic generation, suggesting with gay marriage, drug issues etc. >> gay marriage, climate change, a bunker bunch of these issues as a prerogative is pretty interesting. a lot of people are talking about this election as function of a demographic change. certainly that is an element of it, right, but it me there is a bigger issue goingen.
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part of it the republican party has big trust brand problem. losing a state like montana north dakota, month in, indiana those are seats that should have been automatic winds. democratdemocratic registration in those states was 5%. that means you're having problems with your brand. they have people who are moving on things. for me climate change is going continue an enormous issue. >> gavin: but it wasn't until sandy woke some folks up and the announcement of mayor bloomberg said this was a requirement for his endorsement. it was the first time as al gore said the other night where over a decade and a half where it wasn't brought up, nor did the cane bring it up.
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>> each candidate tried to out-i'll each other during the-oil each other in the debasis. some republicans will look in the mirror and decide they have to work with democrats oh or they're going see the republican party go nowhere. if the president is capable of saying what are we going to do to help you are kids. we need to deal can tax revenue also deal with the social september net. immigration is a kids' issue. kids are in these schools that we should be taking care of, and climate change, health issue for kids. so if the president is capable of giving a bigger framework a thesis an organizing framework.
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if you look at the issues they will have to engage on those or lose percentage percentages of a vote. >> gavin: the issue of immigration. let's get it that in a second. do you expect the party to rally around some of the principles that john mccain or former president bush was willing to go in terms of comprehensive reform, do you think they'll go there with the president? >> it's natural place to look at because it's in their political self interest to not lose roughly 70% of the 10% of the electorate. if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the
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president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton consistent constituency and we need to support them. >> gavin: the gay marriage, two states affirmative and then they pull back in minnesota because of draconian legislation. you were in the thick of it. this is toxic even in our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated the courage on this issue, right? i think i would imagine for someone like yourself this is great. >> gavin: i'm not going it deny
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that. >> as i said, it's always better to be on the right side of history, an to be there early. >> at the wrong time. >> no, it's never the wrong time to be on the right side:. at a political area, this is an issue where people have a positive view. gay marriage is something that should be legalized. i think it's the first of 32 efforts, and maine had been beaten in the past. washington state again with the votes to be counted. >> maryland. >> again tipping point moments where you have some of these--you could argue republicans be--we had a great 40 year run by using some of these social issues to divide our country right? well, first look at those 40 years the democrats carried about half of the elections.
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what i do know it set the republican partying to the way of the republican party of california, which is the party of nothing, it's the party of nada and it's an inherent issue that they have a problem on. given the religious conservatives have a certain view on this, and yet it will be inherently problematic even rudy giuliani, who was on television last night. i don't get them. i don't get the republicans. we don't want the state to decides except when it comes to gay marriage but then the state should not decide. we don't want people in our bedroom but on issues like this. >> gavin: and rudy giuliani is one of the principle supporters of sanctuary status of immigration. we'll come back and look at what a second term of obama looks
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like. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me" the world television premier. only on current tv.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> gavin: we're back with long time clinton-gore aide chris lehans. what does a second obama term look like. i saw all the headlines, the man with the plan. that was the plan they executed to get elected but i didn't necessarily see any big headlines about the man with a plan for a second term. what do you think it looks like?
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>> that's a great question and it's a question that a lot of us in the business and around the country are trying to figure out. there is no question that they had a great plan, and they executed it flawlessly to get elected. and the president talked about the last four years, and one of his big lessons is the importance of leading publicly. to me the challenge is we touched on this a little bit, is there going to be a clearly-defined, clearly articulateed thesis, narrative whatever you want to call it, what brings it all together. i think he did a much better job governing in an incredibly difficult time and never got the credit for it because they were not able to put all these one-offs together for something bigger. he touched on it tuesday night it's a message of intergenerational equity argument. what are we going to do to
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position the country for the next generation, our kids. that is a governing principle. and then leading from that. it's not just giving one speech here and a photo-op there. >> gavin: is this along the lines of opportunity-responsibility frame that president clinton still advances years after office. >> you have this organizing thought of how you want to governor and that's your reference point. people understand the decisions that you are making because they have the reference point to understand it. i think being president is an an incredibly difficult time. you don't have the power that you you with a have had in the past. what you do have, arguably your single biggest asset is the bully pulpit. the republicans they're going to resist. there is this paralysis. as they look at numbers over 50% in their district doing tax reform and responsible budget cuts. that's a difficult thing for
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them to say no to. if 50% of the people in their district want immigration reform, you got it lead publicly. you look at healthcare, it's upside down, 20-80 30-70 there is no way to bring that to the president so he has to create that in what he wants. >> gavin: now having to face the voters again is that an overstatement or simplification of the facts because you're still chair of the party de facto. you're still the leader of the party. you don't want to leave the party in ruins just to be your a your authentic south because self because the system is set up to keep new that family frame. >> we look at how easy it would be to have a perpetual campaign.
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you easily effectively have 16 months. each of your four-year term comes down to 16 months of governing. if you can have two years of governing out of eight years how much can you get done in that 16-month period absent some external event happens. that's why you see them move to policy, now we have the foreign policy issue i'm sure that would be front and center, but what can they accomplish in the 16 months. before you get re-elected there is a certain confidence. it is the like the game-winning shot. you come back because you know you're going it line it up. there is a lot of confidence there. i think there will an certain amount of confidence that he's going to have. i think you saw that tuesday night. tuesday night you saw the barack obama that we saw in 2008 which we haven't seen up until that moment. >> gavin: you talked about citizenship which was refreshing. i hope it's one of those larger
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themes intergenerational, what our responsibilities are. it's not just a sound byte of ask not as important as that was, but an organic. >> your point is it's a cotton candy, it tastes good but ultimately there is not a lot there. the citizenship concept goes to the heart of what we are as americans and what it means. >> gavin: and i would imagine for the millennials which are naturally wired for that empathetic role. >> yes, this is something that you've spent a lot of time on. you've looked at this issue. you've done this. it will be interesting to see the go to the national level with that concept. >> gavin: the fiscal cliff is the next big story. we have a lame duck congress at the moment. do you see all the good work that was done. i think there was more gone work
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between boehner and the president on grand bargaining. do you see that being quickly dusted off so we'll see a more fast-tracked version of a big solution in a buy bipartisan opportunity. >> i was one going into the election day very confident that the president was going to win. but somewhat pessimistic how the country would be run. i think all of those things have almost created a bit of a mandate on the republican side to work with the president assuming the president gives a bigger argument out there. i may be just the irrational irrational exuberance of tuesday i think you can take advantage of these moments.
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political capital exists. it's a question--you make political capital. by the way if you have it, you use it. if you say it, by the time you're done saying it, you lost it. you use it as quickly as you can. it's like investment money. if you use it and spent it well, it's a multiplier on what you get back. it's not like you spent it and it comes back. does the president take the political capital he has. not say it, but doing something with it in quickly. >> gavin: in terms of immigration front and center, dealing with the fiscal cliff and debt entitlement. one will have to be advanced on fiscal cliff, do you think on the immigration-- >> i think it will fiscal cliff and they should go big. preserveing the social september
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net, and making sure we have a a revenue system. you can do something very big there. that propels you to immigration resandstorm which is a natural place for the republicans to go. the president has three big legacy items healthcare, getting our financial and fiscal system in order and then immigration. then after that education and climate change. you may not have the time. you may run out of time. you may miss that election cycle, but that's the sequence. it should not be all at once boom, boom boom. >> gavin: 2016 is around the corner. i'm sure you're already on the phone saying hillary? who are the bright lights you're going to see the world focused on. i imagine rubio on the republican side. christie with his future looking a little brighter even in terms of his own re-election because of the bipartisanship he
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demonstrated with the president. who do you see on the republican side, any surprises? >> in 2012 it was not exactly a formidable group. this was not the 1927 yankees. >> gavin: or the 2012 giants or of course the 2012 giants, right. but i think next time around, the republican side is going to be really interesting. there is going to be a fight for the heart and soul of the republican party where it's going. also people who are going to be more thoughtful, real vision. you may not agree with their vision but there will be people of substance christie, yellow jeb bush. it will be where the democratic party was after 1988. bill clinton emerged from the ashes of that loss and took the
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democratic party in a different direction. and then you start with secretary clinton and i whole race is effectively frozen unless and until she clearly indicates what she intends to do. >> gavin: what is your over-under of clinton-bush. >> i'm sure i'm going to get the statistics wrong but since 1920 there have only been four elections where either a nixon or bush or clinton were not on the ticket or something crazy statistic like that, mind boggling to think about. you know, it would be the rematch, right? if the 2010 giants repeated in in 2012,. >> gavin: hillary clinton effectively holds the prospects in her hands for biden, could youcuomo,o'malley.
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>> yes with sort of one exception on this. which is i think yes the field is frozen. i think governor cuomo is in an unique position that in some ways he benefits from a frozen field. he already has $20 million in the bank. he is the most popular governor in the country. he's governing day in and day out in a bipartisan way. he has established a rapport with the middle class on trust issues. in a frozen field he could very quickly put the money together. it's there. overnight he's in new york, right. a policies from new york or california starts out with constituency folks and he has the organization. he is in an unique situation because he benefits for however long the field is frozen while
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he does his job in new york and probably the only one who could instantaneously leap and put together the organization you need to. >> gavin: looking forward to governing for a few years chris, thank you for coming to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> gavin: out here in california i'm very pleased to say that we voted yes to a measure that will bring more jobs to the state and amend our three strikes law and voted yes for higher tax for the very rich to help fund education. the legendary willie brown joins me art ever a quick break. sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entrees all under 20 dollars. like a half-pound of tender snow crab paired with savory grilled shrimp, just 12.99. or our hearty crab and roasted garlic seafood bake. [ forsythe ] if i wouldn't put it on my table at home, i wouldn't bring it in. my name's jon forsythe
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>> gavin: what do you think about money now in this context it seems to me that super pacs played an extraordinary and influential role in the republican parties but less so in the general election. we saw karl rove spinning that well the $340 million invested made things look better than they would have been without the money. but most are analyzing that it did not necessarily show up in the outcome of the election. what do you assess from that? the primary investment versus the general election return? >> one thing that barack obama did better than any democrat has ever done, he put himself in a position to almost match them dollar-for-dollar in the world of television and ads. i went to a couple of those so-called swing states, and i have never seen even in my lifetime the number of ads and
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they were in the all karl rove. they were democratic ads as well. there were pro obama ads period. i say the ability to offset what karl rove does means you got it raise money the way obama raised money. i am very pleased now that my cell phone, i can get my messages. before that i didn't get may messages. >> gavin: i know. >> because every day there was another solicitation. and not even a thank you. it was a solicitation, and it worked. he got all the money he needed. what i'm really disappointed in, gavin, is that the use of the money in the primary obviously helped the republican offensively, and in particular helped the man who became the nominee. but by the time they got to the general, obama was able to match them dollar-for-dollar, and they
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foolishly did not understand that they should have been spending just as much money on behalf of the senate candidate and on behalf of house candidates. nancy is delighted that they didn't. and harry reid is ecstatic that they didn't. i don't think we'll get that lucky next time around. i think they'll do what they did in 2010. in 2010 they broke the backs of the congressional democrats by spending--outspending them 3- - 3- -4- 5- 1. they concentrated on the obama mistake because obama was equal to the task, and we were all eager to help obama and that national campaign they ran did work. however, i got it believe if i'm karl rove i'm already plodding my next move. after all i'm a 10%-15% winner. that's my commission. >> gavin: that's the commissioner. i had a sense you were going
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there. you're not kidding. speaking of going there, the republican party where do they go now? do they have to run towards the immigration issue and lean into it along the lines of mccain, even former president bush? do they issue gender gap and do they put people out in front rubio an women what did they do? >> it if they resort to being the republicans that rockefeller was, if they resort to the republicans long ago even knicksnixonthat preceded them, they'll do lie advance that you cannot even believe. they'll start by tapping into our plurality among latinos. if they go about treating latinos with the dignity that they deserve and should have, if they come up with an immigration
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package, my guess is that we'll although some of our base overnight. if they continue to really address the needs of women as they started to do near the end of the campaign. if they get rid of the business that we're an anti-abortion group. if they get rid of the idiocy of the tea party people as it relates to women they can very well be attractive. then finally, i think they do have a better organizeing method among young people than democrats. you go it these college operations and you see these youth groups, and they're not like crazy youth groups. they really are youth groups that want to do things. at one time they were all republicans. they were all young republicans. that's what they were.
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they were the major vote group but not like republicans. these are real republicans. if they go back to that type of organizing and then finally finally, if they do what lincoln did, lincoln said, my ancestors should be free. at one time in this country african-americans preferred republicans because that's where we had our best day. democrats were dominated by the southern democrats, when were, in fact, the practicing racists. we went to the republicans not knowing what they sad for or anything else, but freedom for us. if they figure that out and they go into the south as they have done on a few occasions in some districts in south west in florida and places like that, they could very well begin to build. in three to six years you would
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have a different republican party and a far more competitive party than the democrats. >> gavin: second term for obama what do you think? if we were talking four years from now, we would look back in the second term and say what about it? >> i'm hopeful we will look back and say everything that i wanted him to do in the first term, he finally got around to it in the second term. believe me, he really should. he should preempt the republicans on immigration. out of the box the same energy he used to get the health measure, january february, march, he should do immigration. he should not hesitate to evidence the need to readdress the issue of inequality in this nation based on race. those red states, i am telling you, the foundation of much of that color came from the
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existence of color in those places. if he will do the job he needs to do and elevate the reasons why so many people die for the right to vote, i will be ecstatic. obviously he didn't do that in the first term. he didn't did it in the first term. he wanted to be re-electedded. now he is re-elected. this is not the cornell west argument. this is not the kevin smily argument. this is not the jesse jackson argument. this is the practical approach to a legacy. he has got a chance tad it. similar to what lyndon johnson and kennedy and believe it or not nixon. nixon and george schultz were the people who fashioned the first tenants of affirmative action in this nation. mr. obama should evidence that in his choice of cabinet members so he would have a few republicans like george schultz doing his bidding. >> gavin: mr. mayor, always good
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to have you. thanks for being here. >> always nice to see you to. >> gavin: well, it's finally safe to watch tv again. now that $6 billion election campaign is finally played out. sure, some swing states saw a huge up tick in ad revenue but creating those ads is not as lucrative as you might think. find out why the founders of a legendary business don't do political ads. >> go (bleep) in your (bleep)ing hat. >> i knew he needed to get out of the house i knew this would give him so much life. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me" the world television premier. only on current tv.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> gavin: these modern madmen hit the ground running with the iconic "got milk" campaign. since then rich silverstein and jeff goodby have continued to create award-winning advertising. they just don't want to play in political advertising: welcome to the show. you don't like political advertising. >> we failed. we failed with the democratic party. >> they're really hard to work with. they're terrible to work with. >> you know. >> gavin: they're insecure. >> and then focus groups killer killer of any good idea. >> gavin: but you guys test ads. >> sure, sure. >> gavin: i mean got milk ads infamously tested horribly. >> and you have to have the nerve to put it on the air even though it tested horribly.
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>> gavin: then what is the point of testing. >> good point. >> you have to learn from it and make your own decision in the end. some people don't and they just live to it and do whatever it says. the reagan ads, it's very interesting because i think it became like the paradigm what advertising people think what political advertising should be like. what it's really like is that the focus groups, they go crazy when they played it. how upset did they get? if they got upset, then that's a a good piece of work. they were playing it at at time when he was running against mondale. >> gavin: you think it's gotten more credit than it deserves in terms of its impact? >> i don't want to-- >> gavin: one of your favorites. >> it's an amazing piece of film work. it pulls at all the heart strings, but the politicians and
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advertising people, neither one followed it's lead. i don't think we follow that lead any more. there aren't emotional political ads. if there are, there is usually a punched in of them. >> hal was part of the tuesday team. the tuesday team was a group of people who were going to get reagan re-elected. we knew hal well. that was all about hal. he made that spot. there was no team in that. that's how it got done. that's why it was so well done. >> he wrote it, and then produced it himself. the oh other guys didn't really want to do it is what i heard. they didn't think it would have a punch that it has. it now comes back and they admit that it made all the difference. >> gavin: but this is important. it reminds me of everybody's reflective conversation of steve jobs. is that the approach you take to advertising? you know, is that overstated? >> steve is unique, okay, and we met him twice.
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twice he could have hired us. twice he didn't hire us. i think our work is a little bit--it has more depth and a little more--it's not obtuse, but-- >> you're saying that. >> you have to use your imagination a little bit. steve this is simple, this is what we're going to do. he's a dictator. he happens to be a good dictator. he was hard to work with. >> i don't think we worked with a dictator very long. that's the problem. >> gavin: are you guys dictators dictators? >> no. >> gavin: you're collaborative. >> i think we are. we have our own opinions. >> gavin: what happens when that opinion conflicts with your clients? >> oh, well, with the clients in the office we win. that's how it works. but no, with a client, no, no, you can't boss a client around. you have to work with them. it's like the republicans and
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democrats--see i'm getting to the politics. you got the two sides of the house. they're not going it work with each other. just in the going to do it nothing is going it get done. you have to work with the client--have to. >> gavin: are there moments you have quit on the client because the direction the client went you could not accept. >> more often than not it's about the personal interaction that you're having with them where they're not respecting you any more. these people are oh not going it listen to us. they're not going it listen to any reason. if we come in and do a terrific job they're not going to hear it or see it. that's when we quit. >> the by star thing advertising people care so much. trying to get a plumber--we will be on time. we will fix that leak. we will apologize for it leaking which we had nothing to do with, and we'll make the person in the house feel good and look good. >> gavin: this is why you disdain advertising. >> right. >> gavin: let's go back to this--
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>> you get paid well to do this. >> gavin: well apparently so. to political ads you did them, then what, it wasn't you? >> no, we went to meetings with the democratic national committee and tucked talked to them about doing things. you're right. we're dictators and we didn't like their opinions. >> they're very smart people. the same people around clinton. very smart people. oh oh my god, we know all these people. but they just like to talk. they don't come back--once they said, we like your idea, now go raise the money. >> they did do that. we love your idea. we have a couple of cocktail parties you have to come to. >> that's not going it work. >> gavin: you never had a candidate come and say-- >> no, no, we tried many times to do--we sent idea in. >> yeah, we've helped. we always get excited about things. >> you know, it's funny i was
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going to say--i'm always bad with names the great documentarian. >> morris. >> we had him lined up to do some work at one time. which he did. we didn't do it. i don't know what happened. >> he went and did it without us. >> gavin: he took your ideas. >> he took our ideas, he went oh off and did it. it was a little different. >> we would have done it better. >> gavin: can i-- >> i'm going to play to the camera. if you want to be elected anything, call us. but have the money first. >> have the money. we're not in the fundraising business. >> gavin: you guys have grown from 1983 when you started by yourself, you decided to break with ogilvy. >> and hal that a legend out here with that ad that defines
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so much of those reagan years. over the years you guys have grown to offices all around the world, hundreds and hundreds of employees. >> yes, we have hundreds of employees now. we have a big office in detroit. we work for chevrolet and we're thinking about things elsewhere. >> we can't say on camera, we have new plans. >> gavin: i promise we'll edit it. >> sure, sure. >> no, i think we are a little bit like bill and dave of hp and starting in the garage kind of thing. it can happen. america is a place where it can happen. it sounds so corny but it is--for some reason san francisco is that place to do it in. >> gavin: let's talk about that. you didn't do the whole madison avenue new york scene. you decided to stick out here. you never worked in new york. >> never once. >> that's the secret. we're different than people in new york. it's a different place. and i think we make things that are more welcome. we don't believe in yelling at
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people. we don't believe in jingles an putting things in your head that people hate. the thing about advertising is repetition and people being cynical of what they're going it take in. a lot of things we do are humorous beautiful. when we're supposed to scare people we scare them. >> a sound byte would be that we hate advertising. >> gavin: you hate it. >> i really do. i dislike it. >> gavin: you go out of your way to say it. you just went out of your way to say it. >> it's offensive. >> gavin: what is that? >> i don't think i'm in advertising. i think i'm in some kind of relationship with the public where it's part of popular culture. we have a dialogue. we try to treat the consumer with respect. the write something intelligent. >> gavin: everybody wants to treat the people with respect. respect. should you say you're disrespecting the people.
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>> there is not intention that's a good point but it's dumbed down. >> gavin: what are the ads that you guys talk about yourself amongst yourself that don't resonate with the public. what was it-- >> that we like that don't resonate? >> gavin: the ones that you like that represent your style your values you're approach to advertising. >> we have this off side talking about the future of the company. we both worked on this spot for hp at one time where it was going to be hp plus a client plus a product that they had made. it was the wind done in black and white in france. >> in french. >> this thing is so he is esoteric. >> well, it's french. the wind goes over this porsche
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and, whoa, it feels good. no one has seen it in a long time. you know, i think the best work is in front of us. that's so corny, but if we didn't believe we couldn't come up with the next "got milk" we would shoot ourselves or retire. >> that's a little harsh. >> gavin: yes. [ laughing ] in that context, do you still have the same fire. >> yeah, ridiculously. >> we do. >> gavin: what is this, and i ask this in an enlightened way. is it insecurity and all these young hot shots are out there. >> no, it is insecuritity. >> gavin: you always have to prove yourself. >> he has got that. >> oh, what does he have? >> i think it's like stupid optimism. it is. i mean, i say it, i am. you're a little bit less that way. i think it's stupid optimism. you think something really great
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is going to come out of you today. i really think that it's infectious with younger people. if you have younger people around, like you said, you're a dictator and they have to do what they say. an when you have younger people around, it's really infectious with them. they're that way naturally. >> it keeps you young. >> gavin: all right, we're out of time. thank you for coming to the show. i'm so happy that this long and often nasty election is behind us. when i come back i'll share my personal thoughts why we have to reform this process that so often favors the rich.
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give it up. >> make some noise for jim breuer! >> go (bleep) in your (bleep)ing hat. >> i knew he needed to get out of the house i knew this would give him so much life. >> (grunting) >> i love getting a rise out of him. >> nice, good job. >> (grunts) >> goodnight, muffy. >> goodnight. >> love you. >> "more than me" the world television premier.
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only on current tv. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> gavin: finally tonight i just want to say one more time how proud i am of this country and progressive policies we unleashed this week. the only way to move forward is continue to go innovate. to evaluate what works. better yet liberate it's thinking. i have no hesitation in saying the way we elect our leaders is shamefully outdate and flat out wrong. it shouldn't cost $6 billion to elect a president. it should not take more than one year of campaigning to get out the vote and it should not be exclusively the rich. we have a long way to go. we have to get money out of politics. we have new tools to help make that happen. let's put our innovators and entrepreneurs to work and find
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the right technologies to advance our democracy. pollsters still make calls to landlines. campaigns still produce advertising for campaign. and we have a long way to go in how to fully utilize social media to campaign and reform. stay tune as we continue advocating for campaign reform as we find new less costly and more transparent ways to elect our presidents in time for 2016. have a great night and follow our conversation on facebook twitter and google-plus. [ ♪ music ♪ ]
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